BBK REPRINT: The Dummies Guide to Negotiating Price with TG Working Girls by BigBabyKenny
Posted by RealDaffyDuck on June 26, 2012
Today, we have a real gem on tap for our readers – another oldie from Kenny’s original contributions to TFS2M, back when he thought the world of the Big Mango Bar and the guys running it, and made no secret of it… This is the original “The Dummies Guide to Negotiating Price with TG Working Girls” with Kenny providing his version of guidance on how best to negotiate prices with hooker – clearly something a Disgraced CSUN Economics Professor should know about. It’s long, so it’s broken up into 4 pages – so, without further ado…
(courtesy of the BigBabyKenny Historical Archive)
This essay probably shouldn’t be written. (1)
If The Big Mango Blog becomes popular enough and read widely enough, working TG’s will lose billions of Baht each year.
The economic ripple effects as nail shops, hair salons, body lotion factories, Plexiglas high heel shoe manufacturers, micro mini skirt designers, trashy lingerie purveyors, and tattoo parlors experience decreased demand, lay off workers, and go bankrupt will make the economic carnage inflicted on the Thai people when a group of generals with a 7th grade education choose economic advisors with a 10th grade education to set economic and immigration policy and the same generals place a geriatric dufus who doesn’t know how to check his email in command of the internet pale in comparison.
If the Big Mango Blog becomes popular enough, and this essay read widely enough, countless babies fathered by scofflaw Thai jerkoffs, born out of wedlock to exotic dark skinned teenaged Issan super hotties will go hungry, numerous couch potato Thai parents forced to actually work for a living rather than pimping their daughters for noodle money will stroke out, and a plethora of good hearted hard working hard bodied exquisitely breasted and nippled TG’s will end up black eyed, bruised up, and beaten when they come home to their alcoholic, abusive, barely literate, unemployed Thai mini BF’s with short money night after night.
Maybe some things are better kept secret.
OK. Just kidding. This essay is about salesmanship so I thought I would inject a little salesmanship of my own before starting. ☺
When a farang first arrives in Thailand, the critical tool missing from the toolbox is the ability to negotiate price with working TG’s.
This is understandable. Where else except Thailand are you forced everyday to argue price with a half or sometimes fully naked teenage girl who in exchange for $3 has just spent 45 minutes expertly gyrating her flawless, marble smooth, delectably squishy g-stringed ass on your defenseless half and then fully inflated package—-a TG who negotiates price day after day after day and where negotiating well feeds not only herself but her baby and her extended family.
There just isn’t much opportunity to practice and hone this critical skill back in The World and when you are forced to go up against an expert the financial consequences can be devastating (OK. it’s not that bad just injecting a little more salesmanship here). ☺
Let’s start out with a little abstract theory before getting into the nuts and bolts of actually negotiating competently.
What exactly are you trying to achieve when negotiating price with a TG?
A useful way of thinking about the situation is to think of the negotiation as a game.
Inside her head the TG has a number called the Minimum Willingness Accept (MWA) and the game is to figure out what this number is despite the TG’s best efforts to disguise, beguile, and obfuscate.
The MWA is the amount of baht where if she had no alternative she would walk away from you and say I’d rather go home alone, go back to the chrome pole, go back to eating noodles at the bar, or go back to just waiting for another customer rather than banging you for that amount of money. Unless you use coercion, e.g. put a gun to girls head or drug her, the MWA is the lowest price the TG will voluntarily agree to no matter how brilliantly you negotiate.
The MWA is a dynamic number constantly changing as external forces impinge. 30 minutes to closing or the end of the month and rent is due the TG’s MWA will drop. 8PM and the GoGo is packed or the girl has already ST’ed 5 times tonight the TG’s MWA will bump up. If running around naked in a room filled with horny drunk men grabbing her ass, rubbing her breasts and manipulating her nipples interspersed with undulating like a snake with her private parts pressed against a cool shiny smooth metal pole for 6 straight hours has made her really really really horny the TG’s MWA might drop to zero.
When the MWA goes negative, this means the TG would pay you to bang her. This is like the legendary Unicorn—often talked and written about but never seen in real life. (3)
You can only guess what a particular girl’s MWA is at any given point in time. In the game you are playing a TG’s MWA is her most closely guarded secret and, of course, she won’t voluntarily reveal her MWA. If she does you can be sure she is lying because the TG’s has a financial incentive to lie about her MWA—pretending it is higher than it actually is.
Some farangs are under the impression that their behavior, appearance, and demeanor can cause the TG’s MWA to fall (2). We’ve all been forced to endure a Know It All Cheap Charlie Expat or wannabe Lotahrio pontificate about how they are such smooth talkers and so good looking, etc. etc. etc. that they caused a GoGo girl to go temporarily insane and agree to bang for half her normal fee. Personally, I do not hold my skills in such high esteem. Although I have met some pretty smooth operators in Thailand, IMHO, a TG’s MWA is overwhelmingly determined by external factors beyond your control e.g. how good looking the girl is, how pleasing her personality is, how she carries and presents herself as a woman, what price she is getting day after day, etc.
You can usually make an educated guess about a TG’s MWA. The 12th best looking girl in a GoGo with 25 girls, will have a low MWA. A TG sitting in a group of 5 Gulliver’s TG FL’s among whom she is the 4th best looking—same principle. A TG sitting in the Biergarten for 3 hours and who hasn’t been approached by one farang has a MWA at the bottom end of the Biergarten range, i.e. about 1000 THB.
The game you are playing with the TG is to negotiate in such a way, that first a deal is struck and second that the negotiated price is very close to the TG’s MWA. The closer the negotiated price is to the MWA the higher your score in the game and the more money you win.
There are many ways to negotiate well and no best negotiating style. Negotiating styles are as varied as people’s personality and what works for one person may not work for another. We all know a superbabe back in The World who gets everything she wants from guys by dressing provocatively and just smiling. If we tried the same strategy we, of course, would get squat.